A two and a half year update.
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Fraudster:
2a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be :impostor;
It’s that time again. Two years have passed since I posted the first Crowdfunding Fraudsters dedicated to Jeremy Soule and The Northerners and the fact that we are coming back for round three should tell you everything you need to know about how much progress has gotten done in the last two years. December 2019 now marks over six years of delays since The Northerner was originally supposed to be launched, that being September 2013, and keeping on brand with Soule’s incompetence as a businessman, the latest launch date promise has come and gone without as much as a peep from the man himself. In fact, it’s gone without a peep from the Kickstarter community.
I can’t imagine there is anyone left with faith in Soule’s ability to deliver a product.
I said it before and I will say it again, Jeremy Soule isn’t some two-bit hack fraud who managed to dupe people into giving him money for an album he wasn’t capable of publishing. No siree, he’s a two-bit hack fraud of a businessman who managed to dupe people into giving him money for an album he was completely capable of publishing yet has not. Just ask about his DirectSong business. One that more than six years after the intended release date has still not been released! Remember back in the good old days when Jeremy Soule promised that the only risk that might delay the project was scheduling during the summer months?
“I will be working with the same team that has provided reliable and excellent support throughout my career. Recordings aren’t easy to make, but if planning is done within a reasonable time frame, the process can go smoothly. As we have delved into the initial planning stages of the recording session, scheduling for the summer months affords us enough planning time for a recording of this nature.” -Jeremy
Summer scheduling. Oh and we later learned that the instruments Jeremy Soule had planned to use in creating The Northerner Symphony hadn’t been invented yet and wouldn’t be for some years after, but why would you want to put that as a risk on the Kickstarter page? Telling people you are technologically incapable of delivering the thing you are asking for funding for might put them off of giving you a large sum of cash money with virtually no legal strings attached.
I would be remiss if I didn’t note that Soule had released a new single this month; Friðr. It’s from the album The Moon & The Night Sky. I’m not sure if the person who uploaded it to Youtube has permission to do so, but you should listen to it now just in case since Jeremy Soule thinks that music piracy is just as bad as the holocaust.
More on that later. Actually, more on that now.
Jeremy Soule made $10 from me writing this article, and much like backing The Northerner it was mostly a complete waste of money. I didn’t back The Northerner.
Last time I wrote about Jeremy Soule I noted that he had launched a Patreon, which December 2018 me was smart enough to know wouldn’t provide anything useful within the “weekly Q&A” sessions that Soule publishes once every whenever-he-feels-like-it. This time around I wasn’t that smart, and I ended up giving $10 to Soule’s Patreon so I could get access to all of his posts in the hopes of finding something relevant. I didn’t. Only a lot of curated Q&A’s asking Jeremy why his farts don’t stink.
Back in January, Jeremy posted his grand announcement that he would be releasing two new albums in 2019: On the Spring Equinox we would see The Northerner: The Moon and the Night Sky.” On the winter solstice we would finally get our hands on The Northerner. Pretty freaking grand, huh? Two albums in one year! Well I see your two albums in one year and raise you…no albums in one year.
Yea, The Moon & The Night Sky was more like The Pie In The Sky, and didn’t release. Who could have seen that coming, am I right? Jeremy Soule posted on his Facebook page:
“I’m currently putting the finishing touches on this album. It’s taken a bit longer than expected, but I want it to be right, and it’s close. While I had hoped to have had it to you sooner, I’m proud to say that this music is amongst my best work. This is the official album cover and I’m also excited to say that I have brought the Old Norse language to life in an operatic setting.”
And as we all know, when Jeremy Soule says he’s just about done with a project, he’s just about done with a project. Except for every time. To the best of my research (Soule’s Patreon, Kickstarter updates, social media), I was only able to find the single posted above as the only release related to Soule’s new side-album, in addition to Kickstarter posts from 4-5 months ago lamenting that this new album will also never be released. Screw the Spring Equinox, Friðr got released on December 5.
Enjoy the $10 Soule, I hope it goes to a good cause like a big paper calendar. Because you’re terrible at release dates.
In preparation for writing this article, I sent an email to the Max Steiner Agency under the guise of someone thinking Soule would be releasing his album on the twenty first as announced, and inquiring about any planned press releases. The response I got was astounding: Max Steiner is not managing The Northerner and has no information about the status of the album. They are still working with Soule generally, just not on this album.
Crazy huh? Because I’ll be honest with my readers. I don’t have the greatest memory of stuff I wrote two years ago, but I distinctly remembered The Max Steiner Agency being a big part of the original Crowdfunding Fraudsters piece. So I looked back and found that yes indeed, they were a big part. Specifically Gloria Soto who made a completely unprofessional jerk of herself in an email to Kotaku.
“It still rings true. All the Backer did was re-post what Jeremy has said in the past. Which is still true. What part do you want to understand? Are you a Composer that has ever tried to write a symphony?”
The context of this piece should be noted for clarity. Soto here is attacking a Kotaku writer after her agency incompetently mistook a fan-written apology for an official statement by Jeremy Soule and posted it as an official update to the Kickstarter campaign. Like any professional adult, Soto attacks the question and condescends to the author’s intelligence, on the grounds that Kotaku writer never wrote a symphony, so shut your stupid fudging mouth on our PR snafu. Oh and in case you’re wondering, nobody has clarified the post’s authenticity to this date directly to backers. Soto at the time went on to separate the “true fans” from the “trolls” asking for refunds, noting that she was working with Kickstarter to get them removed as they had already been refunded.
Narrator: They were not removed, and many of them allege they were not refunded.
“What I do know – is that we are receiving a lot of support from the true fans. Currently- The ones making noise are backers that I have refunded – have become trolls – which I am currently working with Kickstarter to get them removed from posting on our page.”
The Northerner has so many true fans that as of this writing (noon on December 22), not a single person has bothered to comment on The Northerner not meeting its latest deadline. Or at all in the past two weeks. Boy for a company that isn’t managing The Northerner, the Max Steiner Agency put its name on the Kickstarter campaign, was handling refund requests for angry backers, and was actively attempting to work with Kickstarter to shut down dissent over the minor issue of the campaign being years late.
Now I’m not saying that Max Steiner is lying to me. After all two years have passed since these comments, it is completely reasonable (and likely) that the agency told Jeremy Soule it would no longer be managing his project. I can’t imagine having their name attached to The Northerner has been anything but negative, cue Gloria Soto making the company look even worse. It would also explain why the sparse updates to the Kickstarter campaign began being signed by “The Northerner Team” as of January this year, whereas before they were being signed by Jeremy Soule himself.
The more astute MMO Fallout viewers might notice that this article is lacking in the citation department. That is 100% 2017 Connor’s fault, as he did not archive anything.
Here’s the problem: A lot of our statements from Jeremy Soule came from his Facebook page. Back in August, Jeremy Soule was accused of sexual misconduct. That’s not the focal point of this piece. Soule was not arrested, nor have charges been filed, but all of Jeremy’s social media accounts have been nuked from orbit in the interim. These quotes we got back in the first Fraudsters article are gone, you can go back and check the links to see that they are mostly all dead. This is my fault. We generally archive comments in case of exactly this type of scenario. It wasn’t done.
I’d fire myself, but I’m good friends with the boss and I’d just be back in the office tomorrow like nothing happened.
I decided to do some digging to check out the other missing links in this whole racket, and unsurprisingly nothing else is functioning. The Northerner Facebook Fan Page URL has been hijacked and currently redirects to a blog by someone named Carol Causey who hasn’t updated her Weebly page since 2016 and appears to be a spam page for another service that is equally no longer operational. The Jeremy Soule Facebook Fan page link redirects to a parked domain that was apparently once used to spam human growth hormone products. Fun times.
I looked up Jeremy Soule’s symphony website: http://northernersymphony.com/, since Soule’s Kickstarter has people sending emails to this domain to change their address in case they moved in the last six years. I sent an email myself to this address and have not received a response which judging by the Kickstarter comments is not out of the ordinary. The domain itself however is nonfunctional and a quick look at the Wayback Machine shows that it never was, displaying a “Server Engine Upgrade In Progress…” since May 2017.
And since we’re checking out URLs, it’s probably germaine to point out that Jeremy Soule’s DirectSong service no longer appears to be operational. You can read up on the original Crowdfunding Fraudsters about the DirectSong fraud racket.

One positive side of this piece is that with $10 I gained access to uncompressed copies of Jeremy Soule’s music, and through the magic of internet I now have those copies sitting on my computer forever. What isn’t forever is my Patreon membership which was promptly cancelled. Enjoy the $10, Jeremy. I hope it goes toward something productive like a sourdough bread starter since we all know it’s not going toward printing Kickstarter rewards.
Otherwise I get the idea that I’m the only one paying attention or even caring about The Northerner at this point, and I didn’t even back the thing. As a fan of Jeremy Soule’s work, I came into writing this Crowdfunding Fraudsters article with the slim hope that December 21 would come around and my skepticism would be proven to be totally unfounded, but I can’t say I’m surprised.
If there are any Northerner fans in the audience who are still holding out hope for a release, I’d like to hear from you. Mostly just to know you exist.
Fraudster:
2a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be :impostor;
When it comes to fraudsters showcased here on MMO Fallout, Jeremy Soule may be the worst. The composer of famous soundtracks for numerous games including Skyrim, Guild Wars, and Baldur’s Gate, Jeremy Soule’s talent in composing music haven’t exactly translated into successful businesses.
In 2005, Soule founded the company DirectSong with the purpose of selling albums from his various creations. At best, the service was a wholly incompetent mess that delayed orders by months into years on end and couldn’t figure out digital distribution of simple MP3 files. At worse, it was a running scam and never had any intention of providing the products that Soule was selling at a premium cost. I brought this up in my initial Crowdfunding Fraudsters piece, but check out reviews of the service and you’ll see people who waited 3+ years for their soundtracks to be delivered, and others who had to wait upwards of a year for a response from DirectSong’s customer service about refunds.
The Northerner: Soule Symphony #1 was crowdfunded on Kickstarter back in 2013 with an estimated shipping date of September 2013. Five years later, it has still not released and all signs point towards the songs not even being fully written. But Jeremy needs money, so he’s started a Patreon account in order to solicit additional funding for his works. For $5 per month you’ll gain access to old and new music from Soule and for $10 per month you’ll have the rare opportunity where Soule will actually talk to you, about music product and business techniques. $10 for advice on business, you really get what you pay for.
Meanwhile if you check over at Kickstarter, you’ll see hundreds of comments from people discussing their horrible customer experience of dealing with Soule and the Max Steiner Agency, with refund requests taking close to a year, others not being responded to at all, emails bouncing from the company’s refund address, and more. Soule is more than five years late putting out an album that should have been out in September 2013, and he doesn’t seem to be anywhere near completion.
The Northerner Diaries, a sketch album released by Soule in lieu of the album that backers paid for, is available to listen to for free on Youtube.

Fraudster:
2a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be :impostor;
Today’s Crowdfunding Fraudsters sucks, and not because of the content but the subject itself. I’ll be the first to admit that I had, and despite this piece, still have a lot of admiration for Jeremy Soule and the career and artistic vision that far outshines anything I will ever produce, and this isn’t me trying to deflect a potential very angry correspondance. If there is ever a time to use the phrase “this man has more talent in his little finger than I do in my entire body,” Jeremy Soule is a pretty solid contender. The man created some of my most favorite soundtracks in gaming history, from Skyrim to Guild Wars, Company of Heroes and Baldur’s Gate, and of course the fan favorite Rugrats: Totally Angelica Boredom Buster.
But in order to successfully dive into the curious case of Jeremy Soule and The Northerners, we need to separate the creative mind from the businessman, because while the creative side of Soule is a man ahead of his time, the businessman is an incompetent fraudster with a massive ego and a fraying, incredibly angry line of ripped off customers.
So let’s dive in.
1. Birth of an Album

Way back in the long distant past of early 2013, Jeremy Soule launched and successfully funded a Kickstarter campaign for The Northerner, a symphony by one of the greatest video game music composers since Tommy Tallarico. Expected to launch in September 2013, The Northerner would be Soule’s first foray into the grand traditions of classical music. For fans, this meant more music from one of their favorite composers, and generally a safer genre to back on Kickstarter over gadgets or video games. As with any campaign of this style, the pitch seemed foolproof. Here you have a known composer backed by reliable people, asking for $10 grand, making over $100 grand, who says the only risks are the summer recording sessions going as planned.
“I will be working with the same team that has provided reliable and excellent support throughout my career. Recordings aren’t easy to make, but if planning is done within a reasonable time frame, the process can go smoothly. As we have delved into the initial planning stages of the recording session, scheduling for the summer months affords us enough planning time for a recording of this nature.”
Now of course I wouldn’t be here writing this article if The Northerner had come out on time, or at all. After its successful funding, the campaign went pretty silent until September.
Updates following the initial September 13 date offer occasional reminders that Soule is indeed still alive and working, however by November the following year a recording location had still not been chosen. In June 2015, Soule posts an update announcing that the symphony would be recorded in November. That is November 2015, two years later, for those of you keeping track.
“Today, I am happy to announce that the Symphony will be recorded in November. In the last several months I have traveled the world to survey places of inspiration and possible recording venues.”
The post is followed up in October with a tease that backers will in for a surprise in November. The surprise? Nothing, the campaign would go pretty silent until the 28th, where Soule would not only ignore the previously announced November recording date, but announce that he had so much content that a prequel album would be created!
“In this process, my sketch material has been accumulating. And of course, as with any creative project, the “extras” turned out to be too valuable to discard. So a prequel album became necessary. Today, I’m thrilled to announce Diary.”
So instead of having one album now two years behind schedule and counting, Jeremy Soule could add another to the workload while not actually producing either. As one backer puts it, Soule is basically announcing that after two years of traveling around the world, all he has to show for his time and the backer’s money are some rough, formless edits which themselves aren’t even ready to be listened to.
The next update in February points toward a fall 2016 release for Sketches (the prequel album) and a full symphony release in 2017.
The symphony is absolutely still in progress. I anticipate the Sketches to land late this fall with the full symphony to follow in 2017.
I don’t feel like you need me to spoil whether this went according to plan.
2. The Northerners Doesn’t Exist, And Neither Do Its Instruments

Following months upon months of semi-regular updates including nothing but sheet music, Soule finally updates in Feburary 2017 and his update includes a comment that you might want to take a second look at. And a third, and perhaps a fourth.
When I started this project back in early 2013, I had an idea in mind and a timeline in which to accomplish it, but as I began the work, it grew bigger and more complex. I realized that technology didn’t exist for some of the music I was writing, and that the project would take longer due to these limitations, and its increased length.
Emphasis my own. This distinction is what truly separates the part time crowdfunding fraudsters from the full time professionals, the developers who fund games knowing full stop that the goal isn’t enough to see through to completion, the silicon valley nerds that fund technology knowing that it’s not possible. They don’t convey this to backers, mind you, after all the campaign’s listed risks just wax poetic about how the summer recording session will hopefully go smoothly. Soule conveniently forgets to include the line “oh and the technology for major parts of this symphony don’t exist, and we have no idea when they will be invented.”
Just to reiterate, in no way am I implying that Soule is an incompetent musician, I think his work speaks for itself. Instead of just sitting on his ass, taking in the sights, and going on vacation on his backer’s dime while the technology is built, Jeremy Soule has been spending the past years actually inventing said technology. At this point in the conversation, I could make a snarky joke along the lines of “oh what does Soule need to invent? An electric violin?” but I’d be purposely misrepresenting his statements and I’ll leave that to the Youtube drama channels.
In reality, and as described through his Facebook, the instruments that Soule is inventing sound insanely difficult to build and will be available for other musicians to purchase once they are refined. One instrument, for instance, aims to reduce the mechanical tones of synthesized music by utilizing a breathing tube, allowing the artist to give a more natural feel instead of the on/off binary style of standard keyboard synth. Regardless, backers weren’t too happy to find out that not only was Soule crowdfunding his campaign knowing that it wouldn’t be completed until nonexistent technology was invented, but didn’t really bother explaining that caveat to his backers when he gave the very generous anticipated date of September 2013.
I know what some of you are saying, and you are 100% correct: The comment I quoted above is fake, Jeremy Soule never wrote it, nor did anyone affiliated with Soule. Now I know you’re confused, because I just linked to the official Kickstarter update where that was indeed posted in an official capacity. Let me explain:
This ship is so tightly organized (that’s sarcasm) that a producer, one Gloria Soto of the Max Steiner Agency, posted essentially fan fiction as an official announcement from Soule himself. The statement was written as what a backer hoped Soule would say, including an apology for missed deadlines and a wish that backers would hang on until the final product could be launched. Soto assumed that the post was written by Soule and posted it as an official announcement, and since Kickstarter won’t let creators delete posts after a certain period of time, it’s up there forever.
But this statement, while not from the horse’s mouth, was canonized by the horse’s jockey. Soto stated to Kotaku that all the backer did was re-post what Jeremy has said in the past, and she did so in exactly the condescending and unprofessional manner in which we’ve come to expect from a business who might, for instance, lack the professional courtesy to check with a client/partner before putting words into his mouth and posting fake statements as irrevocable official releases.
“It still rings true. All the Backer did was re-post what Jeremy has said in the past. Which is still true. What part do you want to understand? Are you a Composer that has ever tried to write a symphony?”
The kind of professionalism that results in never posting a followup notice that the previous one was an accident, or anything at all. The February post is the last update on the Kickstarter page, at no point did either party decide it might behoove them to say apologize for posting a completely misleading apology letter which, incidentally, also promises monthly updates to matter how big or small the achievements may be, a promise that was neither made nor kept by anyone affiliated with The Northerner.
I have been hard at work, and have failed to give timely updates, and I am very sorry for that. Going forward, I will be giving monthly updates, no matter how big or small my achievements in that time.
The best we can hope for is a PS by Soule at the end of a Facebook post.
P.S. the latest update on Kickstarter wasn’t from me but a fan. I agreed with the sentiments of what he said so the agency did post his words as an update (partially by mistake). But in retrospect, I am coming from a place of humility when I say I’m trying my best. You deserve that! Thank you again!
I’m going to reiterate this for emphasis: If you don’t follow Jeremy Soule on Facebook or happened to miss the end to this post, there is nothing official to indicate that this campaign update, the last update posted on Kickstarter, is completely fake. In ten months, nobody involved in this campaign has had the basic professional courtesy to take five minutes and post an clarifying update. Nobody; not Soule, not Soto, nobody. The kind of substandard communication that wouldn’t fly at an Elementary School bake sale is evidently enough for a six figure symphonic production.
3. Taking the Retro Computers Ltd Approach to Refunds
Soule rightfully acknowledges in this post that backers are angry and understands that some may want to back out at this juncture. And for those backers, Jeremy Soule wants you to know that he will accept your demands for a refund if you still don’t want any part of this charade.
“And for those who want to say goodbye and withdraw backer support, please know I will refund you without hesitation. Simply email refunds@maxsteineragency.com.”
Unless you email and and simply don’t receive a response. In past crowdfunding fraudsters articles regarding Retro Computers Ltd, one issue that seems to come up a lot is that RCL thinks it can get away with claiming that no refund is refused, a promise easily disproven when you have a list of customers who have been screaming about unanswered refund requests on Indiegogo for months on end, and yes Suzanne, I am still reading your Indiegogo page.
And Soule has been no stranger to this, in fact you can go on Kickstarter back to 2014-2016 and see the streams of customers complaining that they were sick of waiting and wanted refunds, only to be ignored until they caused a major public scene. Now obviously Jeremy Soule himself is not sifting through emails, slamming his fist on a giant deny button as he twirls his mustache, adjusts his monocle, and watches the angry Kickstarter peasants beg for their money while sitting on a throne made of said backer money. That’d be the job of the Max Steiner Agency Inc.
Good old Max Steiner Agency, and who else but Gloria Soto? In her statement to Kotaku, Steiner mentions that the, ahem, true fans are still on board and the rabble complaining on Kickstarter are mostly trolls who have already been refunded. Nothing to worry about, Soto is working with Kickstarter to get those ruffians pushed off.
“What I do know – is that we are receiving a lot of support from the true fans. Currently- The ones making noise are backers that I have refunded – have become trolls – which I am currently working with Kickstarter to get them removed from posting on our page.”
Best of luck with that, you can see how the “blame it on the trolls” technique has worked with the Vega+.
More recent posts on the Kickstarter page point toward refunds taking 3-5 months, if not longer, to process and be returned. Other more vocal backers have noted in the comments of being offered refunds in return for them to stop raising a ruckus in the backer comments section, which some have refused and others have accepted. Further reports from people are indicating that a number of refund requests are being approved but the backers still not seeing their money months down the line.
4. The HoloCOST of Doing Business
What would a story like this be without a good Holocaust analogy? If you answered “much better, thank you,” you would be correct. We’ve talked about his business, about his campaign, now let’s talk about Jeremy Soule the person. Jeremy Soule hates music piracy, he hates it so much that in his opinion it’s basically the worst thing since the holocaust with music creators being just like the Jews.
But don’t take my word for it, let Soule’s own argument convince you.
But forget the Pirate Bay… Piracy is now mainstream. Not since the Holocaust have we seen so many people of a select group forcibly stripped of their livelihoods in a public euphoria of false morals. As one who is of Jewish descent, I can say that I make this statement in a very narrow fashion, but there are similarities. Creators are being vilified, laughed off and treated with indifference by scary multitudes of people who care not for artists’ lives or liberties–let alone the concerns involved in the making of art. The new “norm” is being heralded as “liberation” from the “contrived” and “unfair” standards of fees and payments that have traditionally been worked out in a fair market society. Instead, this is the new unfair market society. The “Jews” in this valid analogy are creators. We are losing our homes, our futures and our ability to take care of our children. Laugh. I dare you. And unlike the streetlamp lighters, the world still needs creators!
I have nothing more to add to this.
5. The DirectSong Fraud Racket
So we know that Jeremy Soule hates people stealing music, but did you know he hates piracy almost as much as he evidently does actually delivering the music that he has sold?

You can find Soule’s music at his company DirectSong, a name you may be familiar with thanks to the fact that the Guild Wars community a couple of years ago was getting ready to launch a class action lawsuit against the service due to it being a gigantic fraud racket. DirectSong was founded by Jeremy Soule in 2005 and currently holds an F rating with the Better Business Bureau, and has effectively been labeled a scam by the communities for the games around which Soule composed and sold the soundtracks to.
DirectSong doesn’t sell physical products anymore, and that’s because of people who didn’t receive their physical discs for months if not years on end, some reporting never receiving anything to this day, with virtually no support from DirectSong on shipping or offering refunds. You can search DirectSong on Google and find hundreds of stories from people like this one, who ordered their Skyrim soundtracks and Guild Wars 2 and didn’t receive their product for upwards of three years. And while you’d think that delivering a digital album would be easier, DirectSong still managed to screw it up and delay delivery for months upon months, a feature as simple as providing a link.
Just take a gander at the customer support message provided to the left where DirectSong takes ten months to respond to a customer complaint about links and, wouldn’t you know it, the person delivering the flippant response is GLORIA! I have no idea if this is the same Gloria from earlier but we are all entitled to our dreams.
You also can’t buy Guild Wars 2’s soundtracks from DirectSong anymore, that job has been relegated to the possibly better suited for delivery folks at Amazon. DirectSong, meanwhile, has a 1/10 score on reseller ratings with most of the complaints mirroring the inability to ship product within a reasonable time and delaying orders by months into years.
Thankfully it looks like DirectSong knows how to deliver mp3 links within a timely manner, but let’s not put too much pressure.
6. But to wrap things up…
Late last month, Jeremy Soule announced via Facebook (not Kickstarter) that December 20th would mark the launch date of Northerner Diaries.
December 20th, 2017 is the release date for Northerner Diaries. Hope you enjoy!
Keep in mind that this is not in fact the launch of the symphony, but merely the vignettes of his ideas. The ones we were promised two years ago. As for the symphony that will soon be five years old, well there isn’t much news on that front. While falling far, far behind on your work for a Kickstarter campaign might not be as terrible as, say, the Holocaust or even music piracy, you would think that Jeremy Soule or the fine folks at the Max Steiner Agency would have come to learn the PR value of keeping your backers updated and not presuming that they follow you through third party channels.
For those who backed on Kickstarter and don’t read Soule’s Facebook page, they have no idea that the Northerner Diaries is supposed to come out this month, because nobody bothered to tell them. Nobody bothers to keep the primary source for backers, the easiest and most accessible resource to ensure that your message gets to the people who gave you money, are informed. It’s like Soule is on stage at a concert, and instead of using his microphone to announce his next song, he’s decided to write it on a slip of paper and hope the crowd passes it around to everyone.
And poor communication and an inability to deliver seems to be the staple of a Jeremy Soule business.